I’ve had my 2005 Porsche Cayenne for almost 6 months now and have covered some 6,500 miles in it! But what has been the true cost of ownership? More, or less than I was expecting? #itsjoel #porsche #cayenne
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I’ve had my 2005 Porsche Cayenne for almost 6 months now and have covered some 6,500 miles in it! But what has been the true cost of ownership? More, or less than I was expecting? #itsjoel #porsche #cayenne
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I really was quite surprised at the results here! How much does it cost you to run your daily driver?
Gosh I nearly fell over- interesting,could you buy a car that is completely the opposite where cost of to the bare minimum
Love your content man. Miss the Z4 though.
Just watched this top-notch content for the 2nd or 3rd time.
My hunch is that the monthly running costs will come down (except fuel) now that you’ve done some maintenance on it.
If you get tied to the same car for 3 or 4 years on a contract it won't do anything to help your chanel, as almost nobody will follow the same car for that duration.
Your long term tests of 6-12 months are excellent. Please dont get tied into a finance deal on some shiny new ruinous heap of overly complex junk.
Been following you since buying my 2006 z4 a few years ago. I have many sports cars and likely have similar tastes to your sporty cars, eg: s2000, Supra, miatas 2x and Mdx
I had high gas cost from Acura Mdx and recommend the BMW i3 Rex, been lots of fun and reliable. Lots of content that can be created for the car too, eg: battery health status, charging habits, rex engine usage/planning , 20” tire alternatives, carbon fiber tub, weighs similar to a Miata, is great fun.
imo these are just the initial charges you're paying to get it up to your standard. it'll be cheaper in the coming months/years since you won't replace many things for a while now.
So moving to the small wheels didn't really improve the ride?
Take the cost of the wheels and tyres off the bill. Average your maintenance costs over 2/3 years it’s not too bad! Should have opted for the diesel if you wanted better mpg. I’ve just picked up 4.2 cayenne s diesel and getting 30+ mpg. Great cars!
Got the same car its done 105000 ruffly…
Had a front left wheel bearing,new battery+alternator in 18months
Paid £3500 for it
Was value at £5019 in an insurance claim.
Got paid £3500 and bought it back for over £1500.
Now a cheap can N
Goodluck guys
math doesn't work, if you compare full running costs (insurance and fuel) with the pcp cost only. this car is raelly nice for what it is, and you keep it in good condition
Ive averaged about 1,600$ Canadian per year in my 09 Cayenne V6 3.6L. Bought it 2.5 years ago at 146k kms now at 188,888 as of today. Only things I had to replace where the front wheel bearings, a/c Blower Motor, Windshield Wiper Motor, I did the driveshaft proactively but that wasn't a necessity nothing was wrong with the original one I just planned on keeping the car for years to come so didn't want it to fail randomly, asides from that I did the transmission fluid and differential fluid when I bought the car, and also just front pads and rotors plus tires but thats just regular stuff every car needs. I also bought 21' OEM GTS rims plus the 21' tires for them which makes the car look amazing. I do need to fix the front left turn signal it does not work atm but ive put it off as its not necessary to drive properly and its the wire harness not the bulb that needs replacing so the entire front bumper needs to be taken off. Thats why I haven't done it. Also I had to buy a new battery for it and the Kenwood headunit I bought the car that was installed died on me so I bought the exact same one off eBay so it would just be simple plug and play remove the old plug in the same replacement new unit. Its never once left me stranded….. Ive ran over some nails two different times and the TPS sensor warned me I was losing air rapidly so I pulled over and the spare tire came in clutch along with CAA, put on the spare and was good to drive home then to fix the tire with the nail. She's been reliable and looks amazing with the black paint, tinted windows, 21' GTS rims and silver trim accents. I also upgraded the headlight halogens to white LEDs. Looks way better with that. Also bought a new Porsche Crest for the front bumper got a perfect used OEM one off eBay for 20$ and also spent 100$ on some Refurbished OEM Porsche wheel caps from eBay.
Having been running a Touareg 3.6 V6 as a daily for 5 years, this gets a thumbs up from me.
Have 955 turbo in Russia
I ran the first generation X5. MPG was around 30. Not much went wrong but shocks cost around £500 and a single fuel injector alone was £250 plus labour etc. I replaced it in 2019 for a 5 series and when i sold that car this year I'd lost around £250 per month in depreciation. When you factor in that the x5 wasn't really depreciating any more it was actually significantly cheaper to run than a more modern car. I loved the x5 and kjnda wish i still had it.
I just was trying to write the same story. If you buy a used car, you have to/ must spend some money to get things fixed in the beginning. And believe me when I say, I was in Canada in the rat race with new cars financing. I paid $600 a month on loan plus gas. Coming from Germany where I mostly bought low mileage used cars, I got a fun of the 0% interest financing at the dealership. With that said, I moved to Panama in 2020. No 0% financing. No discounts on new cars. So I drive? Right. Used cars with low mileage. One 2003 Mercedes E240 with now 83,000km on it. A 2010 Silverado 2500HD, with now 106,000km, to drive my tools and materials around to my own construction site. Both are paid for. I will get rid of my E240 when I move into my house next year. The road to my lot is a gravel road with lots of potholes. So I am looking for an SUV. And you know what? I will get a good deal and have to spend as usual some extra money for tires, brake parts, maintenance — because the previous owner didn’t do that because he was going to sell it. — I honestly was looking for a small pickup truck. But the used ones are still expensive and have lots of km’s on them. 200,000 km minimum and they still like $10,000 and more for them. So I decided to get the 2500HD with the 6.0l engine. I paid $4,800 plus tires, oil change & filters. That’s it. After own it 30 months, I had to put again new tires on it for $580. But it still is cheaper than a Nissan, Isuzu, Ford or Dodge truck in Panama. Well. I pay little by little at the gasoline pump. — Now I am looking for an SUV. Touareg and Porsche cost the same here. BMW X5 is around $500 more ($7,000) for a 2011/12 model than the 2008 VW Group SUV. Today I did stumble across an advertisement for a 2008 Cayenne S with just 136,000km on it — fully loaded. Air suspension, 2 locks, etc. Price tag is $6,000. Same dealer has a 2011 X5 with just 89,000 km on it for $6,700. Anyway. I’m not going down that rat race again because it isn’t enjoyable to pay for years $600 a month plus gasoline.
Enjoyable film as ever Joel. My real World analysis on aging Porsche SUV running costs:
1) It ultimately depends whether the experience is worth the cost to you- there's no 'cheapskate' or functional necessity argument to buy and run this sort of vehicle -otherwise get a ten year old Toyota hatchback!
2) With second-hand vehicles not owned on contract, the overall ownership cost may be lower -but only subject to more varied maintenance costs and what oncoming big maintenance bill you avoid, given lucky timing on selling!
3) It depends whether you have a Youtube channel about it and how well that can offset the costs!
Good video Joel. Made me think about my daily which is a 15 year old BMW. Of course you have to consider that it’s an interesting car and you are keeping it alive. I would notice it if I saw it out and about, but I wouldn’t notice one of the more modern cars you mentioned.
Great video on the first 6 months with the Porsche Cayenne! A few points to add:
Preventive Repairs: It would be interesting to also account for preventive repairs in the costs. Since these likely won't be needed in the first 10 years, it would be fair to calculate this pro-rata. For example: (costs / 120) * 6.
Wheels and Tires: The exchange with a different set of wheels and tires should not be considered a maintenance cost; it can be seen more as a matter of comfort or tuning.
Suspension: Regarding the stiff and hard suspension mentioned in the video, this likely refers to the standard suspension and not the air suspension. The latter is known to be very comfortable!
I’m curious to see where the costs end up after 6 months!
I would choose w163 or W164 over this simply because MLs are the most reliable and comfortable with elegance and good looks and surprisingly good off-road capabilities and also they run cheaper on petrol
I've owned my 04 Cayenne for 10 years and put 120,000 miles on it, I'm up to 200,000 miles now. In the last 10 years I put three sets of tires on it. Multiply your tires by three and divide by 10 for the annual cost. I did the serpentine belt twice. I never did a transmission oil change, my mechanic says its designed to last the life of the transmission and talked me out of it. You only have to do an oil change every 10,000 miles, some say 20,000 miles because it holds 2 gallons of synthetic. You can't do a lifetime of maintenance in six months and take an average LOL. Do you have the 6 cylinder? I have the 8 cylinder, it has 340 hp and is really fast. However, if you do have the 8 cylinder you are sitting on a 'coolant pipe time bomb'. It has plastic coolant pipes that run through the middle of the engine that are a factory defect, there was a lawsuit about it. And the starter is under those.pipes in the middle of the engine. If those pipes go out you have to change out the starter too and its 10 hours of labor, close to $5,000 USD to fix. My pipes went out after 6 months of ownership and after sitting dead in my garage for about a year I decided to do the work myself. Boy what a pain, you have to cut out the old pipes with a hacksaw and grinder. The driveshaft can fail too, thats a big repair. But again, those are once in 20 year repairs (once in the lifetime of the car). Gas mileage is bad because its a 5,000 ppund car, great for digging in to and gripping snow. My biggest fear now is the engine failing and needing a rebuild, most cars only last 250,000 miles. Just a used engine is about $10,000 shipped to my mechanic, then the price of an install…. better to learn how to rebuild an engine myself LOL. Don't forget to change out your differential fluid. Oh yeah, my transmission cooling radiator went out once too, but divide that cost by 20 for the annual cost LOL.
Bought a 2004 S 4.5l. Done 170K brilliant motor. 20 years of pleasure, expensive yes but just did 200 Mile round trip on one tank £120 fill, have 35 mile range left.
Enjoy your Cayenne-I bought a 2006 Cayenne S and own it-got it up to snuff on repairs and own it-fit my budget for purchase and repair and enjoy it until you want a change-use your cost analysis when you go to sell and replace it-leasing is expensive so find a good used car that you want to drive and move to that when the time is right….thanks for the video
Mate, I can tell you’re not Jewish, like me. Your calculations are WAAAAAAAAAY off. Including once-only outgoings in the running costs is insane, dude. Plus….. a £35k Range Rover for £500 per month on finance? That’s a repayment of £6k per year. So £24k over four years. THEN YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE CAR BACK, or pay a crippling final payment. Plus you stilll have to tax, insure and maintain the car AND put petrol in it. You said that 27mpg would be TWICE what your getting now? No it wouldn’t. It would be a 25% improvement.
I’m astounded that you got such a great car, with minimal issues for £3.5k
To spend TEN TIMES as much on a bleeding Range Rover would NOT get you ten times the car
Redo your calculations, dude
Then have a serious word with yourself…….
Mate, I can tell you’re not Jewish, like me. Your calculations are WAAAAAAAAAY off. Including once-only outgoings in the running costs is insane, dude. Plus….. a £35k Range Rover for £500 per month on finance? That’s a repayment of £6k per year. So £24k over four years. THEN YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE CAR BACK, or pay a crippling final payment. Plus you stilll have to tax, insure and maintain the car AND put petrol in it. You said that 27mpg would be TWICE what your getting now? No it wouldn’t. It would be a 25% improvement.
I’m astounded that you got such a great car, with minimal issues for £3.5k
To spend TEN TIMES as much on a bleeding Range Rover would NOT get you ten times the car
Redo your calculations, dude
Then have a serious word with yourself…….
Mate, I can tell you’re not Jewish, like me. Your calculations are WAAAAAAAAAY off. Including once-only outgoings in the running costs is insane, dude. Plus….. a £35k Range Rover for £500 per month on finance? That’s a repayment of £6k per year. So £24k over four years. THEN YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE CAR BACK, or pay a crippling final payment. Plus you stilll have to tax, insure and maintain the car AND put petrol in it. You said that 27mpg would be TWICE what your getting now? No it wouldn’t. It would be a 25% improvement.
I’m astounded that you got such a great car, with minimal issues for £3.5k
To spend TEN TIMES as much on a bleeding Range Rover would NOT get you ten times the car
Redo your calculations, dude
Then have a serious word with yourself…….
We have had our for about a year now we get 18mpg to16mpg
WRONG! Operational costs are not the same as purchase price and operating maintenance costs. Basically the cost of your extra wheels, tires, gasoline, taxes, insurance have little to do with the cost to own this model car. You would pay these regardless of the model car or because you elected to. Ultimately this figure is waaaaaay over inflated guy. Was closer $1.5k. Big deal guy…